Public Health Grand Rounds Discussion Forum

Antimicrobial Resistance

 


Subject: Preventing CA-MRSA in the athletic setting
Posted by:
Stephen R. Keener on 04/14/05


Because of the increasing incidence of CA-MRSA in student athletes in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina over the past two years, the Health Communications staff of the Mecklenburg County Health Department produced a 7-minute DVD, ÿffff93Preventing MRSA in the Athletic Setting,ÿffff94 which targets student athletes with prevention messages. The Charlotte-Mecklenburg School System collaborated with our staff in the planning and distribution of the video.

While we have no way of scientifically tracking the incidence of CA-MRSA in our community, anecdotal conversations with primary care physicians and laboratorians, and a decrease in telephone calls to school nurses suggest that the measures recommended by the CDC and highlighted in the recent Public Health Grand Rounds on CA-MRSA appear beneficial.

The video and other educational materials are available at the Public Health Grand Rounds website. Please let us know if you have any questions about these materials or about prevention efforts in our community.

Subject: FYI. Surveillance of CA-MRSA at local level - A final report to health care providers
Posted by:
Lei Chen on 04/13/05


FYI only. I attached a report to our local health care providers regarding results for surveillance of CA-MRSA. This report was well received by our local health care providers including ID physicians as well as out of state physicians, nurses, and other clinicians. Thanks.

Attachment: Surveillance.pdf


Subject: CA-MRSA and wrestling
Posted by:
Lei Chen on 04/12/05

Our local health department once received a report of a cluster of 3 MRSA skin infection among three wrestlers associated with a tournament held by a regional wrestling association. We followed the NCAA's guidelines to recommend wrestling association to screen every participant for possible MRSA skin infections prior to subsequent tournaments. What are CDC's recommendation? Would you please comment on the role of local health department in such screening activities? Are we supposed to provide any resources to assist screening?

Subject: Re: CA-MRSA and wrestling
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/14/05
In Reply to: CA-MRSA and wrestling posted by Lei Chen on 04/12/05:

CDC's recommendations for preventing staphylococcal skin infections among sports participants are described in MMWR (" Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus aureus Infections Among Competitive Sports Participants --- Colorado, Indiana, Pennsylvania, and Los Angeles County, 2000--2003" , August 22, 2003 / 52(33);793-795, http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5233a4.htm), and include training athletes and coaches in first aid for wounds and recognition of wounds that are potentially infected, encouraging athletes to report skin lesions to coaches and encourage coaches to assess athletes regularly for skin lesions, and several other recommendations. Health departments do not necessarily need to be actively involved in these preventive screening activities (although they may wish to provide educational materials to the athletes and coaches).

Subject: ca-MRSA Necrotizing Pneumonia
Posted by:
Perrianne Lurie on 04/12/05

Are the risk factors for pulmonary infections different from those for skin infections?


Subject: Re: ca-MRSA Necrotizing Pneumonia
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/14/05
In Reply to: ca-MRSA Necrotizing Pneumonia posted by Perrianne Lurie on 04/12/05:

The risk factors for pneumonia are not fully determined and are likely to differ from those for skin infection, although there may be some in common. Recent surveillance has found CA-MRSA pneumonia in persons with a preceding viral respiratory ilness or influenza-like illness.

Hageman J, Francis J, Uyeki T, et al. Emergence of Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus aureus as a Cause of Community-Acquired Pneumonia During the Influenza Season, 2003-04 [Abstract Latebreaker #8]. In: Program and abstracts of the 42nd Annual Meeting of the Infectious Diseases Society of America (Boston, MA). Alexandria, VA: Infectious Diseases Society of America, 2004.

Francis JS, Doherty MC, Lopatin U, Johnston CP, Sinha G, Ross T, Cai M, Hansel NN, Perl T, Ticehurst JR, Carroll K, Thomas DL, Nuermberger E, Bartlett JG. Severe community-onset pneumonia in healthy adults caused by methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus carrying the Panton-Valentine leukocidin genes. Clin Infect Dis. 2005 Jan 1;40(1):100-7

Subject: MRSA - in utero
Posted by:
Christi Paradise, RN on 04/12/05

Any data on MRSA transmission in utero?

If the mother has a history of MRSA in an abdominal wound during the pregnancy but at the time of delivery there are no wounds or signs of infection, what are the risks of transmission to the newborn?

Subject: Re: MRSA - in utero
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/12/05
In Reply to: MRSA - in utero posted by Christi Paradise, RN on 04/12/05:

I am unaward of data on risk of transmission to the newborn in this situation. Case reports of early onset sepsis with MRSA (suggesting transmission in utero or during delivery) are rare. There are no data that I am aware of to suggest that in the example you pose that the woman or her newborn should be treated prophylactically in any way, or that contact between the mother and her baby should be restricted after birth. In terms of contact precautions during delivery, the hospital should follow their routine policy for patients with known previous MRSA infection or colonization. At discharge, the mother should be instructed to reognize early signs of skin infection abscess in infant and to seek care if any symptoms occur (and to notify provider that she has a history of MRSA infection).

Subject: MRSA and MSM
Posted by:
Cindy Stiles, RN on 04/12/05

Does anyone understand why MSM's are at a higher risk for MRSA?

Subject: Re: MRSA and MSM
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/12/05
In Reply to: MRSA and MSM posted by Cindy Stiles, RN on 04/12/05:

It is not known that MSM are at higher risk. To date, reports have been received of CA-MRSA infection in MSM, but not as a part of an epidemiological study that would indicate higher risk or risk factors.

Subject: CA-MRSA.
Posted by:
Yash Chudasama on 04/12/05

How would you be able to tell the differnce between the CA-MRSA and hospital MRSA in a laboratory without having any clinical information. Can one look at a culture and sensitivity and predict that this is a possible CA-MRSA?
Thank you.

Subject: Re: CA-MRSA.
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/12/05
In Reply to: CA-MRSA. posted by Yash Chudasama on 04/12/05:

Laboratory testing differences between typical Community-associated MRSA and Healthcare-associated MRSA include:
CA-MRSA is usually susceptible to chloramphenicol, clindamycin and variably resistant (there is geographica variability) to fluoroquinolones; HA-MRSA is usually resistant to all of these drugs. CA-MRSA will usually contain a resistance carrying element referred to as SCCmec IV; HA-MRSA will typically have SCCmec II. Finally, CA-MRSA commonly contains genes for Panton-Valentine leukocidin and HA-MRSA does not. Except for the susceptibility testing, these are not routine tests. Please note, a finding of susceptibility does not necessarily make the drug an appropriate treatment choice.

Subject: CA-MRSA and pets
Posted by:
Sandy Halford on 04/12/05


Is there protocol for testing/treating pets, horse, etc. of a patient known to have MRSA?
Thanks

Subject: Re: CA-MRSA and pets
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/12/05
In Reply to: CA-MRSA and pets posted by Sandy Halford on 04/12/05:

Animals can be infected with staphylococcus. Research is being conducted to determine the specific risks and treatment protocols regarding transmission between animals and humans.

Subject: nasal carriage of CA-MRSA
Posted by:
Mel Reppen on 04/12/05

I'm curious to know if individuals seen with CA-MRSA skin infections are cultured for nasal carriage of the same organism and if most are colonized?
If most of those with infections are also nasally colonized, should we be concerned about individuals who are admitted to in-patient facilities with nasal MRSA carriage, who have no current infection? Should we assume the patient may be at increased risk of infection with the virulent strain of CA-MRSA, especially in those who have MRSA in nares and have no recent exposure to antibiotics or health care settings?

Subject: Re: nasal carriage of CA-MRSA
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/12/05
In Reply to: nasal carriage of CA-MRSA posted by Mel Reppen on 04/12/05:

Only a small percentage of persons who carry any form of staph on their skin or in their nares subsequently develop disease within a short period of time. Because many people at any given time may be staph carriers, decolonization outside of the context of ongoing illness or increased transmission is unlikely to be useful for preventing disease. In addition, the overuse of decolonization antimicrobials poses the risk of creating accelerating the development of resistance to these drugs.

Subject: Surveillance of CA-MRSA in the Correctional Health Setting
Posted by:
Sandra Cinkovich-Wilson, RN on 04/12/05

What are your feelings regarding maintaining an ongoing surveilallance program of the CA-MRSA that we have identified within the jail. I have been actively monitoring and tracking all the MRSA infections in the jail since 2002 and worked with the Seattle King County Public Health Epidemiology Department in data gathering, which assisted in the identification of CA-MRSA within our correctional health system. I have not been able to identify any trends related to spread within the jail, we of course have the " seasonal" increases and decreases of CA-MRSA in the numbers of cases we have, do you feel it is worth while to continue to track each patient identified with CA-MRSA, monitor antibiotic use as well as other course of treatment(s)used to resolve the abscesses/wounds?

Subject: Re: Surveillance of CA-MRSA in the Correctional Health Setting
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/12/05
In Reply to: Surveillance of CA-MRSA in the Correctional Health Setting posted by Sandra Cinkovich-Wilson, RN on 04/12/05:

The decision to conduct surveillance in a given setting depends on the institution, the interest by the local health department, and other factors such as available interventions. Correctional Facilities have demonstrated a high risk for transmission of CA-MRSA and conducting surveillance in this setting is reasonable to determine if recommended control measures remain effective and for early detection of outbreaks.

Subject: D test for inducible Clindamycin resistance
Posted by:
Nina Williams on 04/12/05

Do you suggest routinely doing the D-test on all MRSA isolates?

Subject: Re: D test for inducible Clindamycin resistance
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/13/05
In Reply to: D test for inducible Clindamycin resistance posted by Nina Williams on 04/12/05:

Reference on methods:
Fiebelkorn, K. R., S. A. Crawford, M. L. McElmeel, and J. H. Jorgensen. 2003. Practical disk diffusion method for detection of inducible clindamycin resistance in Staphylococcus aureus and coagulase-negative staphylococci. J. Clin. Microbiol. 41:4740-4744.

Subject: Re: D test for inducible Clindamycin resistance
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/12/05
In Reply to: D test for inducible Clindamycin resistance posted by Nina Williams on 04/12/05:

The D-test should be done on all MRSA isolates that are erythromycin resistant and clindamycin susceptible on initial screening. If the laboratory does not have capacity to do the D-test, clindamycin susceptibility should be reported as indeterminate if isolate is erythromycin-resistant.

Subject: Re: D test for inducible Clindamycin resistance
Posted by:
Lei Chen on 04/12/05
In Reply to: D test for inducible Clindamycin resistance posted by Nina Williams on 04/12/05:

Based on our local surveillance data for CA-MRSA, we highly recommend D test for those isolates with resistant to erythromycin. One major local hospital in our community always run D test regardless of physician's request.

Subject: MRSA in the home Care Setting
Posted by:
Marie Capezzuti on 04/12/05

If a patient is known to be MRSA positive and no follow up cultures have been done for tested treatment would the use of gowns be recommended for all direct patient care with this type of client in a home care setting?

Subject: Re: MRSA in the home Care Setting
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/14/05
In Reply to: MRSA in the home Care Setting posted by Marie Capezzuti on 04/12/05:

Household members do not need to practice special infection control precautions during contact with an MRSA-colonized patient in the home setting who does not have active infection. However, standard household hygiene principles should be practiced (e.g., hand hygiene, no sharing of personal items, etc).

Policies for home healthcare personnel who may be treating the MRSA colonized patient in the home have varied widely. Some agencies practice contact precautions, including gown and gloves, when in direct contact with these patients. Others have advocated modified contact precautions (e.g., gloves only), while still others have chosen standard precautions in this setting. The decision should be made in part based upon the nature of the patient population. If a home healthcare practitioner will be visiting multiple patients on a given day, and there are number of patients who are at high risk for infection (e.g., immunocompromised, invasive lines, etc.), a more aggressive infection control approach might be reasonable. There may be other practical issues that factor into the decision as well. If possible, it might also make some sense to temporally " cohort" known colonized patients until the end of the day, that is visiting patients not known to be colonized first, and MRSA colonized patients last.

Subject: Re: Re: MRSA in the home Care Setting
Posted by:
Carol Schlismann, RN on 07/18/05
In Reply to: Re: MRSA in the home Care Setting posted by J. Todd Weber on 04/14/05:

With MRSA positive patients, washing the hands is the most important precaution. If the patient has a wound, we want our staff to gown and use an eye shield PRN, for example if the wound is on the patient's heel and it is being irrigated. [In that case, irrigant from the wound can splash on the nurse's face.]

The patient's family should use good hand hygiene, be sure to not share towels and linens, and carefully handle soiled linens, diapers, etc. The patient's bathroom should be disinfected regularly, especially if the tub or sink is shared with others.

We ask our nurses to apply hand hygiene after leaving the home, because they may be visiting other patients that day.
That should help prevent the hands from spreading the MRSA to patients seen later that day.

Subject: Drug(s) of choice to treat CA-MRSA
Posted by:
Mike Kimball, ARNP on 04/12/05


What, again, where the drugs of choice to treat CA-MRSA?

Subject: Re: Drug(s) of choice to treat CA-MRSA
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/12/05
In Reply to: Drug(s) of choice to treat CA-MRSA posted by Mike Kimball, ARNP on 04/12/05:

The most important treatment for CA-MRSA skin and soft tissue infections is drainage of any collection of pus. A sample should be sent to the microbiology laboratory for susceptibility testing. If drug treatment is thought to be necessary, empiric therapy with antimicrobials until microbiology laboratory results are available should be guided by local susceptibility patterns, which are known to the microbiology laboratory and infectious disease specialists. These will differ in different parts of the country.

Subject: Re: Re: Drug(s) of choice to treat CA-MRSA
Posted by:
kathryn Koven on 04/18/05
In Reply to: Re: Drug(s) of choice to treat CA-MRSA posted by J. Todd Weber on 04/12/05:

What is the recommended LENGTH of treatment? Sounded like the DOC is septra DS +/- rifampin or clindamycin.

Subject: Re: Re: Drug(s) of choice to treat CA-MRSA
Posted by:
Lei Chen on 04/12/05
In Reply to: Re: Drug(s) of choice to treat CA-MRSA posted by J. Todd Weber on 04/12/05:

Based on our experience in conducting CA-MRSA surveillance in the local level, we agree with Rx recommendations in Seattle's interim guideline. If Abx is really necessary, we (local health department and local ID physicians) recommend to add an effective abx such as Clindamycin, Bactrim until susceptibility results are back.

Subject: Antimicrobial Resistance
Posted by:
Julie Brodhead, RN on 04/12/05


when will this be archive to get to watch it again or to get handouts to down load?

Subject: Re: Antimicrobial Resistance
Posted by:
Donna Davis on 04/12/05
In Reply to: Antimicrobial Resistance posted by Julie Brodhead, RN on 04/12/05:

The webcast and handouts are available now. Follow the links from our home page. After a few weeks, these links are moved to archived programs, but will still be available.

Subject: CA MRSA
Posted by:
Cathy Lucas, RNC ICP on 04/12/05

Does the fact adolescents are put on oral antibiotics for acne have any relationship with the development of CA-MRSA?

Subject: Re: CA MRSA
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber on 04/12/05
In Reply to: CA MRSA posted by Cathy Lucas, RNC ICP on 04/12/05:

I am unaware on the individual patient level whether use of antibiotics for acne increases risk for subsequent CA-MRSA infection. Antimicrobial use in general, among everyone, creates the milieu in which mutations confering resistance are provided a selective advantage and more likely to spread. For that reason, CDC and others encourage appropriate use, reducing the use of antimicrobials in situations where they are clearly unnecessary (e.g., antibacterial drugs for a viral infection).

Subject: Welcome!
Posted by:
J. Todd Weber, MD on 04/12/05

Welcome to the Discussion Forum for the Public Health Grand Rounds program Antimicrobial Resistance: Old bugs, New Threats and the Public Health Response. Online discussion will be facilitated by content experts from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) beginning April 8 and ending April 15. During that time, we invite you to share your experiences, comment on issues raised in the program, and pose questions to the panelists, CDC experts, and forum participants. Thank you for your participation.

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